I’m still so skeptical of this car. I want all the figures to be true, but I don’t know if battery technology’s come far enough for it to become a reality.
“I don’t know if battery technology’s come far enough for it to become a reality”
We have the battery technology for this. Mass producing it is another thing. Hitachi already has prismatic Li-ion cells that have an output of 5kw/kg. They are selling these to GM for the Chevy Malibu hybrid.
A car running 8.8 in the 1/4 will need about 1300 horsepower, or 1 megawatt of power. That means using 200 kg of those Hitachi cells. That’s 440 pounds, or the weight of an an all aluminum LS motor. Compare this with the 1200 pound weight of the P100D battery pack. Note, however, this is power density, not energy we are talking about. This 200kg battery pack would have terrible range. You could increase the size of the pack, giving more range and power.
If you made it the size of a Tesla pack, you would have 2000+ horsepower potential.
So yes, a crazy high power car like Tesla is describing is definitely possible. Hell you could build it today.
DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF THE DURACEL BATTERIES
That thing must lift me off to space and back within 10 seconds with all those stats. The new roadster doesn’t need that GTA Rocket to get up there.
To be honest, we’ll just have to wait and see. Remember, we all made complete morons of ourselves thinking an electric car can never become a daily or be widely accepted car by automotive enthusiasts but Tesla did it so just keep quiet and let them do their thing.
Electric cars were actually quite common in the 1890s and 1900s, as were steam cars.
Jesus would hate EVs. You should too. Don’t ask what ICE can do for you, ask what you can do for ICE! Join the movement and be the manly man girls love at shelloil.com
If Shell (or any company selling something that is fundamentally limited and will run out at some point) were smart, they would start investing in the very thing that will make their product obsolete. Doesn’t necessarily have to be electricity though. Could be hydrogen (although I seriously doubt that) or some kind of biofuel (pretty much the only viable fuel for long-haul aircraft right now).
Jesus would hate EVs?
Okay that’s an insult. An actual religious insult.
I’m not so much skeptical of the car’s technology as whether Tesla can actually produce this thing and earn money from it before they go bankrupt. If someone like Porsche or Audi with more resources made an electric supercar of their own, Tesla would never be able to compete.
I think the whole “Tesla’s going bankrupt” thing is a bit of a marketing stunt. I do believe they are low on money, but not as low as we think. They may perhaps be trying to make people feel obliged to buy one to help Tesla.
It’s incredible what electronic car can do
Having 10,000 Nm of torque already would be pretty impressive for something that doesn’t exist yet
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I’m still so skeptical of this car. I want all the figures to be true, but I don’t know if battery technology’s come far enough for it to become a reality.
“I don’t know if battery technology’s come far enough for it to become a reality”
We have the battery technology for this. Mass producing it is another thing. Hitachi already has prismatic Li-ion cells that have an output of 5kw/kg. They are selling these to GM for the Chevy Malibu hybrid.
A car running 8.8 in the 1/4 will need about 1300 horsepower, or 1 megawatt of power. That means using 200 kg of those Hitachi cells. That’s 440 pounds, or the weight of an an all aluminum LS motor. Compare this with the 1200 pound weight of the P100D battery pack. Note, however, this is power density, not energy we are talking about. This 200kg battery pack would have terrible range. You could increase the size of the pack, giving more range and power.
If you made it the size of a Tesla pack, you would have 2000+ horsepower potential.
So yes, a crazy high power car like Tesla is describing is definitely possible. Hell you could build it today.
DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF THE DURACEL BATTERIES
That thing must lift me off to space and back within 10 seconds with all those stats.
The new roadster doesn’t need that GTA Rocket to get up there.
To be honest, we’ll just have to wait and see. Remember, we all made complete morons of ourselves thinking an electric car can never become a daily or be widely accepted car by automotive enthusiasts but Tesla did it so just keep quiet and let them do their thing.
Electric cars were actually quite common in the 1890s and 1900s, as were steam cars.
Jesus would hate EVs. You should too. Don’t ask what ICE can do for you, ask what you can do for ICE! Join the movement and be the manly man girls love at shelloil.com
If Shell (or any company selling something that is fundamentally limited and will run out at some point) were smart, they would start investing in the very thing that will make their product obsolete. Doesn’t necessarily have to be electricity though. Could be hydrogen (although I seriously doubt that) or some kind of biofuel (pretty much the only viable fuel for long-haul aircraft right now).
Jesus would hate EVs?
Okay that’s an insult. An actual religious insult.
I’m not so much skeptical of the car’s technology as whether Tesla can actually produce this thing and earn money from it before they go bankrupt. If someone like Porsche or Audi with more resources made an electric supercar of their own, Tesla would never be able to compete.
I think the whole “Tesla’s going bankrupt” thing is a bit of a marketing stunt. I do believe they are low on money, but not as low as we think. They may perhaps be trying to make people feel obliged to buy one to help Tesla.
It’s incredible what electronic car can do
Having 10,000 Nm of torque already would be pretty impressive for something that doesn’t exist yet