Engineering Explained: Why Some Engines Rev High And Their Benefits
To understand the details of how redline limits are set, let’s dive deeper into the following questions:
- What’s The Benefit Of A High Revving Engine?
- What Role Does The Bore/Stroke Ratio Play?
- How Do Engines Breathe At High RPM?
- How Do Reciprocating Parts Impact Redline?
- Are Low Revving Engines Bad?
1. What's The Benefit Of A High Revving Engine?
Simply put, power is the biggest benefit of a high revving engine. Horsepower is a function of torque and engine RPM. Increase max RPM or torque, and power goes up. If you have a 2.0-litre engine, you’ll need large amounts of boost in order to make high power figures. On the flip side, simply designing for higher revs means you’ll increase the amount of power you make. Torque is not critically important if you make enough power, as you can gear the car appropriately to keep wheel torque competitive. Of course, you can always increase displacement to increase the power, but generally this reduces efficiency.
One of the simplest ways of creating a high revving engine is to start with an oversquare design (larger bore than stroke). There are multiple advantages of this type of design, but as far as engine RPM is concerned it keeps the piston speed relatively low. Lower piston speeds means less stress on the connecting rods and crankshaft as well as acceptable flame propagation speeds, allowing the engine to rev even higher. Also, by having a wider bore, you can have larger intake and exhaust valves, leading to better airflow at high RPM.
For example, let’s say you have two 4.0-litre V8 engines that rev to 6000rpm. One has a bore/stroke ratio of 0.5 (68.3mm/136.6mm) and the other has a bore/stroke ratio of 1.5 (98.5mm/65.6mm). The undersquare engine will have an average piston speed of 27.32 m/s while the engine with the larger bore will have an average piston speed of 13.12 m/s, less than half! The short stroke engine could rev all the way to 12,500rpm before reaching the same piston speeds as the other engine.
Formula 1 engines and motorcycle engines often have very high bore/stroke ratios, allowing for higher engine speeds (and thus more power). A bore/stroke ratio of 2.5 is not all that strange in the world of F1.
3. How Do Engines Breathe At High RPM?
Another significant factor in how high an engine revs is how well it can breathe. This is where the valvetrain plays a critical role. As mentioned above, a large bore will allow for larger valves and thus more airflow at high RPM. That said, larger valves are heavier and can lead to valve float, where the valve stem is no longer perfectly in sync with the camshaft as the valve springs no longer keep up. Engines with two valves per cylinder will tend to have larger valves, and this is even more of a challenge.
It is possible to overcome valve float to an extent. Stiff valve springs can be used to ensure valve float does not occur, but this means more energy is required to compress the springs and thus the system is less efficient. Making valves with lightweight materials can help with reducing the requirement of stiffer valve springs, so performance cars often make use of titanium to reduce mass.
In the case of F1 engines, pneumatic springs are used instead of physical springs and compressed nitrogen keeps the valves following the cam profile.
The secret to the high revving nature of rotary engines lies in the fact that all of the moving parts are rotational rather than reciprocating. Stress and valve float become an issue when reciprocating masses are high, such as in pushrod engines with valves and pushrods constantly changing direction. For a price, quality materials can be used to mitigate the problem, but money can only do so much when there are superior designs to mitigating the issue.
Not in the slightest. Diesel engines rarely rev anywhere close to gasoline equivalents, but they’re often just as powerful and more efficient. Diesels use high compression ratios and long strokes, which leads to high pressures and temperatures within the cylinder, requiring heavy duty materials for longevity. The longer stroke can improve torque, but at a cost of reducing the redline. Also, in the case of engines with two valves per cylinder, low-end torque tends to be better as a result of faster airflow at lower engine speeds.
Comments
The only benefit of high revving engine
This happens when you stroke your bore too fast.
Plot twist: Civic with a fart can
Rotary is Love, Rotary is Life
That reminds me…
…of this.
The first time I watched it I almost cried.
what anime is this?
My dream is to build high-end revving cars, with less than 1001cc of displacement, and at least a redline with 5 digits.
b16 12k rpm honda lol build or just build a rotary
I’ve seen some Locost (homemade Lotus Seven-ish cars) with bike engines and a converted mx-5 sprocket to driveshaft lsd. 12-15000 rpm 200 hp engine and a 6 speed sequential, must be awesome to drive.
exactly! Its a shame that developing engines is so byrocratical these days…I also sometimes dream of having superbike - o- car- o engines. Like a 2.5 litre V8..reving to around 11k.
honda made a car called the S800 that had a rpm limit of 10k rpm from 1966 to 1970 it had a 791cc inline 4 and was known for being the fastest production -1 litre car in the world for its time, would not mind owning 1 xD
Get Fiat’s 999cc 8v FIRE engine and drop 16v head on it and enjoy easily +12k RPM :)
Didn’t Koenigsegg say that it takes same amount of energy to push a valve spring in a truck engine as it would in a motorcycle engine?
Maybe with their new valve system ?
High revving engines are pretty cool. Like the Yamaha FZR 250, redlines at 18,500rpm. Sounds awesome!
Isn’t it a two stroke though ?
More stroke, less speed. Now i finally have an excuse when the ladies complain about my lack of “stroke” huehue….
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Touche
As always grat post!
How about rod:stroke ratio. Long rod with short stroke reduces the lateral forces on the piston and cylinder wall, making an engine easier to rev.
I think this has more to do with crankshaft inertia than piston side forces
The bore to stroke ratio is actually fairly irrelevant, it’s literally just a matter of stroke, the shorter the stroke the higher you can Rev it, regardless of the bore diameter.
Pretty much all engines max out at mean piston speeds of about 25m/s, whether it’s an F1 engine, the V8 in the 458, the BMW S54 or the Honda B18C.
Stroke and long rod some engine can reach 27m/s.. but at those speed, you have to said goodbye to reliability
The head is important too, especialy the configuration of the valvetrain