There's A 2.0-Litre Toyota Supra And It Could Replace The GT86
The canapés are barely cold after the global launch of the new Toyota Supra, but already there’s huge new news. Four-cylinder options have been confirmed as expected, but there’s more: one of them has just 3bhp more than the GT86.
Toyota in Japan has gone public with the four-pot engines that are headed for the A90 Supra. Both are turbocharged 2.0-litre units borrowed from BMW, with the more powerful of the twins coughing up 258bhp at 5000-6500rpm on top of peak torque of 295lb ft from 1550-4400rpm. That will make it good for a limited 155mph and a 0-62mph sprint in 5.2 seconds. Like the 3.0-litre car, the 2.0-litre ones will be automatic.
The second of the two turbocharged 2.0-litre engines has 200bhp, placing it right on the nose of the 197bhp GT86. Despite being about 140kg heavier, the Supra will be markedly quicker thanks to its extra torque and ZF automatic gearbox. Its 6.5-second launch to 62mph easily beats the 86’s 7.6 seconds.
As such there’s furious speculation that the base model Supra – badged Supra SZ in Japan – will kill the GT86 off. We’re not convinced, given that the GT86 starts at around £25,000 and the 3.0-litre Supra – Japan’s RZ – is way up over £50,000. Even the cheapest Supra is unlikely to fall below £35,000.
The four-cylinder Supra saves some 70kg at the nose, according to the initial reports. That could really boost the car’s handling dynamics, especially considering that BMW is claiming a 50:50 weight distribution for the, ahem, quite similar new Z4. The dynamic diamond that is the GT86 also has wonderful balance but with more chassis flex and body roll. Perhaps it’s different enough to survive alongside a 200bhp Supra… or perhaps not.
At the moment the four-banger Supras are confined to the Japanese market alone, but it’s not very likely to stay that way. Only time will tell whether the Supra and GT86 will be able to coexist.
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Meh.. as long as we have the BRZ…
Or… The GT86 could inherit the 258bhp four-pot 😏🙃
Honestly I feel like it would be better for the four pot supra to replace the GT86. Toyota/Subaru don’t plan on giving it anymore power so if they continue to produce it the only thing that will change are aesthetics and maybe suspension, brakes, etc. And if people still want a 86 for the boxer or because it’s cheaper they can just get it secondhand. Especially if they want it because it’s cheaper
Nah because the GT86 is a car you have to work to drive fast. It’s like the Miata in that you’ve got to work for you speed, it’s a more involving experience. 7400 rpm screamers are going down in this world so I think we need to enjoy the shouty 4 cylinder before it’s taken away forever
Or… it’s for the people that want to swap engines in, remember the countless times we talked about how they measured the engine bay to fit swaps and how having a cheaper one would be great for tuners?
That makes sense. The 2litre version would be ideal for all the future 2jz swaps. Although the entry level 4 cylinder should have a manual.
They wouldn’t make a car just for swaps, that makes no sense. It’s just a less powerful Supra, like the non turbo mk4.
They shouldn’t replace it because it would be cooler if they had two sports cars in their line up… all we need is the Celica and the MR2 to join
So still not a worthy by in europe if you don’t care about which wheels push the car.
Why just Europe?
Doubt it, the i4 version is still significantly heavier than the GT86.
The A90 is like 1.5 tonnes 😂
Unlikely, since as you guys noted it will still cost over a 10 grand above the GT86
Can I have a 6-cylinder GT86 instead of the Supra?
At least the front of the GT86 is not ugly
This is brilliant. The gt86 is the entry level rwd car from Toyota. Its boxer engine with useable accessible power certainly has an appeal and it giving more power would certainly ruin the appeal.
By providing a 4 cylinder Supra with 250 bhp, all those who wanted more powerful gt86 can be satisfied.
Its the best of both worlds (if priced properly)
The 200 bhp Supra is pure shit tho
That’s a huge” IF”. Probably will cost a lot more.
I think the 200 bhp model will just turn out to be the go-to for inevitable engine swaps.
This isn’t the 198 BHP lightweight supra meant for swapping. This 255hp car is meant to be the mid range and won’t be cheap
Ad long as Subaru keeps the BRZ then I am okay with this