Does The FN2 Honda Civic Type R Deserve All The Hate?

The FN2 is the least loved of all the hot Civics, but should it be that way? We spent a few days with one to find out
Does The FN2 Honda Civic Type R Deserve All The Hate?

“Worst Type R ever made.” “The FN2 is absolutely awful!” “I never liked this car.” Those were a few of the Instagram comments we received when posting up about our recent test of the FN2 generation Type R, neatly proving my reason for getting it in for a drive in the first place: it’s the least loved of all the Civic Type Rs.

So what’s the problem with it? First of all, Honda carried over the EP3’s 2.0-litre K20 VTEC engine pretty much unchanged, so it’s no faster than the one that came before it. Secondly, the chassis is technically inferior, as the EP3’s fully independent suspension setup was ditched for a less sophisticated independent front, torsion beam/trailing arm rear setup.

Does The FN2 Honda Civic Type R Deserve All The Hate?

It doesn’t sound awfully promising on paper, but I’ve always wanted to try one for myself. And since we’ve been running the new ‘FK2’ generation Type R for the last few months on a long-term test, now seems like as good a time as any to see if the poor old FN2 is deserving of all that flack, or if there’s a gem of a car hiding under all that negative rep.

In terms of looks, I actually rather like it. Naturally it can’t compete with the classic looks of the original EK9 Type R, but I was never a fan of the whole bread van thing with the EP3, and when sitting next to ‘our’ FK2 with its festooning of wings and vents, you appreciate the old FN2’s smoother lines and more balanced overall look.

Does The FN2 Honda Civic Type R Deserve All The Hate?

On the inside it’s familiar territory: as in the current R you’ve a pair of red, hip-hugging seats, and a ‘double decker’ arrangement to the dashboard that sees the rev counter, fuel gauge and temperature gauge sitting below, with the speedometer sitting on the upper section. Only here, it’s not quite so fancy, and the trip computer isn’t an utter faff to use.

So far, so good, and as an owner of one of the FN2’s contemporary rivals - the MkV VW Golf GTI - I found myself wondering if I should have bought a Honda instead. Until I drove it for the first time, of course.

Does The FN2 Honda Civic Type R Deserve All The Hate?

The problem is the FN2 doesn’t at any time feel fast. You can buzz it up to the 8000rpm red line all you want, but save for a mild increase in poke from around 5500rpm, there’s no VTEC kicked in yo force pinning you in the back of your seat. The gear change isn’t as slick as the FK2 either, but the biggest problem is with the suspension. Not just because the chassis lacks the fluidity of the old EP3’s - no lift-off oversteer heroics here, I’m afraid - but also because it’s absurdly firm.

You’ve probably heard us and pretty much every other UK car publication out there complain about the overly harsh ‘+R’ mode on the latest Type R. The FN2 rides rather like that, except there are no adaptive dampers here, so you’re stuck with the firmness all the time.

It just never seems to settle: you’re constantly jiggling around. It’s irritating in town, and when you’re on a bumpy B road it’s downright scary when the chassis’ firmness and lack of finesse sees you skating around and grappling with the wheel just to stay on the tarmac.

Does The FN2 Honda Civic Type R Deserve All The Hate?

It’s not all bad, though. Despite the lack of poke the N/A engine is an utter joy to smash into the red line, and emits a zingy din the new car could never hope to replicate. The steering’s superior to the EP3’s slow and slightly vague setup too, and the interior a far nicer place to spend time in.

The idea of an FN2 with aftermarket suspension and a power boost (apparently some breathing mods and a remap can hike things up to a more potent 230-240bhp) is a genuinely tempting one, but unfortunately in its standard guise, the FN2 is too uneven to pass muster.

Does The FN2 Honda Civic Type R Deserve All The Hate?

It has neither the playful chassis of the EP3, nor the genuinely shocking capability of the FK2. So yes, it’s the ‘ugly duckingly’ of the Type Rs, and after sampling one for myself, I totally get why. But hey, since the current Type R is such a belter, I think we can forgive Honda for the one-off blip.

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Anonymous

Hi, I agree, when the FN2 TypeR is stock sstandard, it is very boring to hear
And drive….. But once it gets some mods to help it breathe and Hondatato manage everything, this Type R changes into the car you were expecting in the beginning and it gets fast! And it gets loud as well! you can see how it transforms in this vid clip…. https://youtu.be/PMikbUMzCmE

08/10/2016 - 19:06 |
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Anonymous

if the new civic hatch is out

hoping for a 3 door one

09/01/2016 - 08:09 |
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Anonymous

I got the pleasure of driving my brothers modified FN2 type r with a full exhaust and intake and some stiffening in the form of strut braces. I can honestly say its one of the most enjoyable cars ive been in. It revved very smoothly and was very much a quick car though the mods may have had some effect on this. The GT model has a great interior but if you are a man or woman that is of the wider variety like i am then the seats are not ideal. I personally found the suspension fairly comfortable but you can still tell its quite stiff. Its also got a huge boot so its fairly practical minus the annoying self resetting seats and it has a tendency to inhale petrol when you want to have fun but i can honestly say after driving it i want one and im seriously considering trading my remapped thp ds3 in for one after ive payed off my settlement figure. Im sure many disagree with this but i honestly think this is a great car once you put some money into a few mods !

09/16/2018 - 20:54 |
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