A Few Lousy Flaws All Japanese Cars Seem To Have

(As a response to a blog challenge by fellow CTzen and friend Chadkake, I have decided to make an article of my own on a small list of lousy qualities that all Japanese cars seem to share.)

A Few Lousy Flaws All Japanese Cars Seem To Have

(As a response to a blog challenge by fellow CTzen and friend Chadkake, I have decided to make an article of my own on a small list of lousy qualities that all Japanese cars seem to share.)

Though we, as car enthusiasts like us adamantly claim to be a lover of all cars of all nationalities, it is undeniable that they have at least a sharper spike of preference to one particular culture of cars over the others, and there the others who are die-hard fans of one particular “race” of cars. There are the American muscle car fans, the Euro fans, the Aussie muscle car fans, the KDM car fans, and, one of the most prolific ones and a primary subject of this article: the JDM car fans.

Though often regarded as the underdogs of the car culture to some, especially from the more posh Euro fans and hardcore muscle car fans, it is no doubt that the Japanese car scene is quite impressive; other than introducing the world famous art of driving, drifting, and introducing the flavorful “Driving spirit for budget” philosophy, the Japanese car community has swiftly grown in influence to heavily compete with the American/Australian muscle car culture thanks to the Fast & Furious movies, highlighting tastefully modified Japanese sports cars like the Toyota Supra or Nissan Skyline GT-R, as well as the Initial D anime series, and eventually even gaining the attention of the Europeans with amazing, race-y cars like the Honda NSX and triggering the rather money-stuffed fellows with the budget luxury car hero in the 90s, the Lexus LS400.

The brilliant man that was Ayrton Senna, who directed the development of a Japanese car, mostly scoffed at when compared to European performance cars, helped create a car that even made Porsche and Jaguar's jaws drop.
The brilliant man that was Ayrton Senna, who directed the development of a…

However, just because of a few greats here and there, does not automatically make them the top of the line in terms of car standards; The Japanese automobile still has ways to go to actually decently compete with the other cars today in the elite section of cars, the part where a brand’s reputation is usually put in high stakes, though of course its mostly the Japanese cars that dominate the economic-levels of cars.

Anyway, like everything in this world, all cars have flaws in them, no matter how great they may be, and Japanese cars have them. Here are some pretty sucky things about Japanese cars that seem to be a running theme for nearly all of them.

1. They Generally Lack Significant Panache and Refinement

A Few Lousy Flaws All Japanese Cars Seem To Have

Take a look at the two cars above, the Impreza WRX STi and Lancer Evo. Now, being fairly modern and equipped with some useful tech can be nifty and no doubt improves refinement quality, but they really just do not prevail in the refinement and finesse department all that well. Yes yes yes, calm down now, don’t raise your pitchforks and point your shotguns at me, these weren’t really built with comfort and refinement in mind as a primary objective, but when you try to evaluate the overall stable build quality of these at a socially and ergonomically comfortable level, you’ll find much to be desired.

Even though the “luxury” trio of Lexus, Infiniti and Acura provide with their fairly impressive cars, they still have that cheap feel to it no matter where you look within their cars compared to their competitors like the German trio, Mercedes, BMW and Audi. While they are still more luxurious and refined than most other cars, when compared to their foreign competitors, they often leave much to be desired.

With intriguing projects and future cars coming up from Lexus and Infiniti, though, the game might change for them, but we will never know until it happens…

2. Jack of All Trades; Master of none.

A Few Lousy Flaws All Japanese Cars Seem To Have

In the modern times, with the growing dominance of European cars and also rapidly improving American cars, especially Ford, for example, Japan, though (arguably) their peak of car stardom was during the 90s, they seem to have slowly but surely fall off in car culture dominance by the end of the 90s, transitioning into the mid-2000s era, mainly because of a staggering Asian economic crisis that has also resulted in the demise of a handful of great Japanese cars like the Toyota MR2, then known as the MR-S in the final edition, for instance.

Japanese cars today seem to have a “Jack-of-all-trades, master of none” syndrome. They try to be good at all the major roles at once; practical, sporty, economical and efficient but they cannot seem to perfect that formula excluding Mazda or Honda today. Like shown above, the Infiniti G37 has a very strong case of that: It is a luxurious sport coupe, but more a GT car. A lackluster one at the very least; it tries to be luxurious, but in the end still feels very Nissan-ish and inexpensive, it is quite fast and sporty but not quite as fast or sportier enough than its rivals like the Audi S5 or the Ford Mustang GT (okay it may cut close to the GT).

You know what, it is essentially just a Nissan 370Z donning a thick tuxedo with extra pockets (of space).

In terms of motorsports, while they are fierce competitors, sadly, these days they have fallen off greatly in motorsport dominance; Keiichi Tsuchiya may be the father of car drifting and a living legend, but Ken Block has been in the spotlight these days and is now the current hot stuff in terms of professional and show drifting, as seen from his Hoonicorn and Gymkana stunts, though the most adamant of Japanese drift scene fans may disagree. In motorsport, though once Nissan, Honda and Mitsubishi may have been iconic victors of Group A, Formula One and WRC respectively, they too have mostly fallen out of the top standing in the podium, and some could say they are a shadow of their former selves.

An interesting attempt from Nissan, but it didn't do too hot...
An interesting attempt from Nissan, but it didn't do too hot...

Today, you don’t get to see too much Japanese cars that ever get fondly remembered or lustfully covetous these days in the general market, save for a few like Nissan’s R35 GT-R, Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X, Subaru Impreza WRX STi or the Lexus LFA in 2010, but over the years, these cars too have hardly changed for the worse; the GT-R has fallen off in competition and slowly becoming irrelevant due to better competitors like the Porsche 991 911 Turbo S or the Chevrolet Corvette C7 Z06, the Evo X is officially discontinued, the WRX STi seems to have f-cked off ever since the new Honda Civic Type R and Ford Focus RS came back to play, and the LFA is not “general market” for consumers, even though it is an awesome car.

The LFA is an amazing car, but, even though it has one of the best sounding engines ever and is incredibly refined and engaging to drive, it is still quite overpriced for what it actually offers...
The LFA is an amazing car, but, even though it has one of the best…

3. Some Of Their Cars Are Overhyped Beyond Redemption

A Few Lousy Flaws All Japanese Cars Seem To Have

The Toyota Supra has a strong case of this one, as well as the Nissan Skyline GT-R R34 and GT-R R35, mainly due to the Fast & Furious franchise and Internet exposure among many other factors. Yes, this problem doesn’t only apply to Japanese cars, but never has there been any other car out there which has had as much volatile and divided fandom as Japanese cars, mainly due because their budget-level pricing has had a natural appeal to the younger generation with such high ambitions to turn their Japanese econo-box into a monster of sorts, which leads to the more unsavory kind of fans to become infamous “Internet cancer”. Don’t be those kind of people.

Also, this overhyping causes these cars’ prices in the second hand market to skyrocket to unjustifiable levels of money; in the USA, a good Mk4 Supra with little to no mods that is manual will cost an average 40,000 to sometimes 90,000 dollars. NINETY THOUSAND. THAT’S ALMOST CLOSE TO 100,000! HIGH-END SPORTS CAR LEVEL MONEY.; And what do you get for that colossal amount of money? Well, a comfortable, decently fast, refined, very reliable and well-handling GT car with at least 326 HP and a slick 6-speed manual shifter and that’s it.

Don’t get me wrong, the Supra is an amazing car, but the average price for a good manual Supra is way too much to ask in my opinion. If you’re still determined for a Supra, then that’s totally up to you and it’s fine, but also, with 40,000-90,000 dollars you can also get these other amazing, new cars with that money:

(Disclaimer: I am not trying to discredit a Supra within that price range. I am just merely stating a few [potentially biased] recommendation of brand new cars you can get for that price range.)

$40,000 or less: Ford Focus RS Mk3

A Few Lousy Flaws All Japanese Cars Seem To Have

You can get yourself the modern generation worldwide for about that much money and still have some left to spare. Though it may no longer be FWD, that is a small price to pay for a smart AWD system, a sporty manual shifter, more power, and a DRIFT BUTTON! (No. It doesn’t magically turn you into Ken Block doing Gymkana so don’t get your hopes up.) Other competitors would include the Ford Mustang GT, Chevrolet Camaro SS, and the Mercedes A45 AMG.

$50,000-$65,000: BMW F80 M3

A Few Lousy Flaws All Japanese Cars Seem To Have

Yes. You may cringe about how overly praised the M3 F80 can be, but there is a reason why. It is one of the fastest and sharpest sports sedans out there in the market, and, though it may have a soulless feel compared to its predecessors, there is no denying on its engineering, speed, and aesthetics. It is one fine German beauty, and no doubt one of the best cars BMW has made as of this current generation. Other competitors would include the Cadillac ATS-V and the Audi RS4.

$75,000-$90,000: Porsche Cayman GT4

A Few Lousy Flaws All Japanese Cars Seem To Have

Honestly speaking, there is almost no argument here. The Cayman GT4 is as much “sports car” as you can get from the Porsche dealership today, save for the Porsche 918 Spyder or the 911 GT3. This little terror is the stuff of wet dreams for many car enthusiasts and car collectors alike for many reasons, apart from performance and pedigree; it looks the part too. Other competitors would include the Jaguar F-Type, BMW M4, Mercedes C63 AMG W205, the Dodge Hellcat cars, and the Cadillac CTS-V.

Hey, but if you’re a diehard Toyota fan and a Supra enthusiasts and you are willing to spend that much for a mint Supra, I don’t see why you shouldn’t. The Supra is a great car and to get one in mint condition today is certainly not an easy task, and you have some impressive determination for it.

CONCLUSION

A Few Lousy Flaws All Japanese Cars Seem To Have

So this tops off my personal list of a few flaws all Japanese cars seem to share. I might be wrong in some of this, but I can’t deny but sense these flaws in all of them. I don’t have any practical experience, so this is a speculative list as well. It doesn’t mean I don’t know my stuff. I am ultimately a Japanese car enthusiast at heart, but that doesn’t mean I would blindly love them and them only, because there are many, many cars out there that aren’t Japanese but still worth falling head over heels for, and some that might even make you reconsider your alignment on car culture, which can only be attained by the best of what those cars can offer.

Japanese cars. Many of them are amazing for their budget prices, though sadly to say, they are far from what they were used to be. At least, compared to their more glorious eras like the 90s… Or basically before the infamous Economic Crisis happened.

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(This is a very late response, but I mustered up the motivation to do it)

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Comments

Anonymous

I still wouldnt buy a ford

09/14/2016 - 15:20 |
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Dat Incredible Chadkake

In reply to by Anonymous (not verified)

Why?

09/15/2016 - 01:02 |
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Xpect

For the Supra comparison, there is an even stronger contender: A brand spanking new GT-86 with every option you’d need ticked is only 35k new from the dealer. Strap one of the 10k Tuning Kits on that thing and you have a car newer and faster, with similar body form, temperament, beauty and tuneability. Both are Toyotas, both are Sports coupes, both have seemingly endless aftermarket parts available, both are at roughly the same price and power (going for NA Supra in this case) but one is a used car out of mass production and one is brand new from the dealer with ZERO mileage. I know which one I’d get. As much as I love the Supra, current prices are way too high.

09/14/2016 - 15:23 |
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Cyrizz

In reply to by Xpect

If you want a legend, you need to grab some money. Thats just how it is. Prices dont come from nothing. Theyre up there cause people pay that amount for it on a regular basis.

09/15/2016 - 21:14 |
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Anonymous

You forgot one BIG point…..RUST (predominantly on older japs)! if you own a jap car prepare to spend alot of time an money on welding, not even udersealing is a dead cert!

09/14/2016 - 15:34 |
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Anonymous

In reply to by Anonymous (not verified)

I down voted this even though you are correct because I just don’t want to think about it. :P

09/14/2016 - 23:20 |
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Anonymous

One thing that I will slightly disagree with is that there are no budget JDM cars to be had anymore. Sure, you’re not finding a clean 240/180/280 sx for cheap, you’re finding a beat up and trashed one, but there’s other cars out there. The Mk III Celica-Supra has started to climb in price as fanboys have started to buy them instead, citing budgetary issues, but if you love the 80’s styling of the AE86, without paying AE86 prices, the Mk II Celica-Supra, or especially the pre-FWD 80’s Celicas are better cars with the same aesthetic and engineering quality, for way less money. (Rougher ones are about $2,000 US on Craigslist, while clean ones can be about $5k, and super squeeky clean ones are about $7k, with normal Celicas being less)

RWD 90’s Lexus’s seem to lost almost all of their value, although good luck finding one with fewer than 180k miles on the clock. But, they seem to be between $2k and $5k depending on which one and what engine that model has. (V8, small straight 6, 2JZ, etc.)

Then you have the RX-7 FC, which is just as awesome as its younger brother, but in about the same price range as the Mk II Celica Supra. If you want super cheap, many of them are even in 24 Hours of LeMons territory.

Want something new? The FR-S/GT-86/BR-Z/86/“Toybaru BR-S” is relatively cheap off the dealer lot, and, while it isn’t the fastest thing in the world in stock form, it has huge potential for modifications and great aftermarket support. (Plus it was designed with the ability to modify it in mind)

09/14/2016 - 15:36 |
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Anonymous

In reply to by Anonymous (not verified)

Unpopular opinion here.

I fail to understand the aesthetic appeal of the MKIV Supra/FD RX7 duo. I respect the underlying engineering and at least understand the origin of the hype surrounding these cars, but in my opinion, their semi-wedge, ‘roundilinear’ predecessors (MKIII/FC) are nicer-looking IMO. Then again I’m just unswayed by the completely rounded-off, ‘bar-of-soap’ styling of the late 90s.

Agree on the premise of the article btw.

09/15/2016 - 05:47 |
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Cruising Down The Street In My Eight Six (Squadron HachiRoku

Why spend 60 to 80 thousand on a BMW that is goiung to cost double that money in maintenance and repairs? 120 bucks for an oil change and a tire rotation? come on. while these vehicles might be expensive and more luxurious… Think about how much it costs to maintain the car. Of you get the Supra… your maintenance is cheap as hell and parts are extremely affordable and easy to find. But for a BMW… the price for a sports clutch is roughly a good 800 to 900 dollars and are not very easy to get a hold of. So, at the end of the day who is really saving money?

09/14/2016 - 15:37 |
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Well the Supra is older, so there is probably more parts that will need replacement, since rubber and plastics go bad with time, and the older a part is, the more prone to failure it is. You get the BMW with a warranty since it’s new.
Also, you don’t need a sports clutch for the M3, while most JDM cars are beloved as a basis for modifying, the M3 is pretty much optimized the way it is.

09/14/2016 - 17:53 |
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Hevar

The Supra wouldn’t be over hyped if the non-car guys would talk so much about it, when they talk aboout Supra’s, Skyline’s, BMW’s and other cars they only think on the most popular model. They don’t think on the MKIII Supra, the Hakosuka or BMW 2002.
Even if car guys where the only one’s to talk about them they would still cost a lot because of the movies and prestigious ownership.
LFA costs a lot yes but that’s Lexus, but Lexus is Lexus.
In Sweden I rarely see a R34 GT-R, MKIV Supra is a little more popular maybe because it’s cheaper.
Some car manufacturers just want to make money instead of making money and pleasing their owners.

09/14/2016 - 15:37 |
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Agustín J. Ruatta

The mk4 supra is an icon, it’s a classic car. You can’t compare it to modern cars. Also, for me it’s really beautifull, in a way moder cars aren’t

09/14/2016 - 15:37 |
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Actually, you can. And even compared to cars of its time, it’s quite obese and for its time, kinda powerful, but the competitors had more technology and similar weight and power figures for similar prices.

09/18/2016 - 00:58 |
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Anonymous

They are quite overhyped and overpriced, and I quietly admit I got suckered into buying a overprice stock used 97 Integra that had many (unknown to me) problems. Now I have a slightly fixed (enough to pass inspection) Integra, but problems with it will pop up in the future. I spent too much on it trying to get inspection worthy. Stupid hype train…

Also I bought a Integra because I don’t want to be a sqaure with a Civic. I should have looked into getting a RSX instead…

09/14/2016 - 16:03 |
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Anonymous

I think the article is a tad biased pro European cars. The M3? I think that’s a pretty poor example. The M series BMWs haven’t been great sports cars for years. BMW in general has been moving away from sports focused cars, in exchange for luxury cars.

09/14/2016 - 16:06 |
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Jantjehoek

In reply to by Anonymous (not verified)

You are wrong there.

09/14/2016 - 16:14 |
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It'sThatDamnGingerAgain

Great article, and this is coming from a Japanese car enthusiast as well.

09/14/2016 - 16:13 |
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