Is The New Honda Civic Type R Actually Better Than The Focus RS And WRX STI?

Can the Civic Type R compete with the Ford Focus RS and Subaru WRX STI? Doug DeMuro explains why he's left wanting more
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The newest Honda Civic Type R has promised so much after the short and successful run of its shouty FK2 predecessor, and it’s safe to say CT’s own Alex is a fan, calling it the best front-wheel drive car ever. But Doug DeMuro thinks it still falls short of the Ford Focus RS and the Subaru WRX STI in some crucial areas.

306bhp might sound like a lot, especially for a front-wheel-drive hatchback, but it loses out to the Ford by around 50bhp. Both the Ford and Subaru also come with four-wheel-drive, and 0-60 times of just over 4.5 seconds, whereas the Civic is roughly a second slower.

Doug says that he wants the Type R to have more noise and for the styling to be toned down a tad. Most of us at CT like the bonkers, aero-led aesthetic, but maybe we’re weird.

Give the video above a watch and let us know what you think of the conclusions made.

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Anonymous

Must of been a TYPE O saying it could be better than the RS and StI.

06/20/2017 - 16:48 |
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☆★THEBOOSTEDBRIT★☆

Hammond arguing why the STi is better:

06/20/2017 - 16:52 |
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Jakob

110% agree with him.

06/20/2017 - 17:16 |
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TexasCarSpotter

The problem with with Civic is that it may very well be the best front-wheel drive car ever, but its playing in the segment where AWD reigns supreme. While you could make the arguement that youre saving money buying the Civic, I have to agree with doug and say that isnt it worth it to pay the extra $2000-$3000 for the superior vehicles?

06/20/2017 - 17:18 |
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German Perfectionist

Agree with him on every single point, especially on the design critique. In case you missed it, I featured this car in my Top 10 Ugliest Cars Of 2017 post…

06/20/2017 - 17:22 |
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RedTegB20

Normally, I never watch this guy because he annoys me but since it’s the ctr I decided to give it a try. By 3:51 I had to stop, this guy is a blithering idiot. He complains about the wing moving when he shuts the hatch? Really? Why doesn’t he just call Airbus and lockeed Martin to complain about the improved efficiency of composite wings? DougDeMuro

06/20/2017 - 17:22 |
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Apopololo

Man the Civic fanboys are really mad with him on YouTube comments.

06/20/2017 - 17:28 |
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Anonymous

We R getting lots of news today on CT.
These R a lot of effort to Type.
They must have been Honda computer for a long time.

06/20/2017 - 17:31 |
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Anonymous

I guess the type R has respectable power but theres just no way around the hideous design.

06/20/2017 - 17:42 |
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Tomislav Celić

I would still have the RS, but Type R is my second choice

06/20/2017 - 18:05 |
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