Welp, that sums up the age old question. Screw you, evo.
So to recap the Evo had: better brakes active yaw control as opposed to fancy abs sharper turn in response the only real performance category it lost in was power and weight but you failed to mention which one puts power to the wheels more efficiently. Also the stock turbo of the sti has less power potential than the tried and true td05 in the evo. And can we please stop bitching about plastic interiors? I love that they saved the money there so the powertrain could be better.
I’d like to comment on the plastic interior thing, because before I was very involved with automotive journalism I was completely on your side. I bought a ‘14 STI before entering any press car. When you drive a new car every week, you start to get a feel for what the industry offers, and it becomes very apparent when you get in a vehicle that’s below industry average. That’s why I mentioned the Evo is old in my Evo review, because the interior may have been fine for 2008 but it’s 2015 now. When there are cars like the Golf R, and the new STI (a big improvement over the generation I own), for the same price as the Evo, all while weighing significantly less, it’s worth pointing out. Torque vectoring differentials are awesome, probably one of the smartest ways to control yaw. That said, the technology is becoming more common these days. For the price, there’s no reason the Evo’s interior shouldn’t compete with similar cars on the market, and it does not.
And to recap, it has larger brakes, but is heavier. This doesn’t mean better. They both have large brembos for their vehicle weight.
Not attacking the Evo here either, it was a blast to drive and felt well controlled. Just letting you know that my opinions on interiors has changed dramatically since I’ve been more exposed to vehicles within the industry.
Subie life or no life
A red Subaru and a blue Mitsubishi? My e-peen was confused.
Where did you get your info on the evo power split? As from what research iI have done it is a 50/50 split 24/7 straight from mitsubishi itself and everywhere else I have looked. Going to the seats. Drive a diffrent year evo that does have the Recaros they have more bolstering than the sti. Yes you did mention that it had gotten new seats in the 2015 model but the rest of them have better seats period. No talk about how the diffrent terrain modes in the evo work? That is a big game changer. The tarmac let’s it be wild and free. Allows oversteer and has a stiffer diff while gravel kind of opens the diff and tightens the TCS and snow is basically the fun police to allow the safest driving. And the suspension cues. Agreed the subaru has a very street suspension and so does the evo. But the evos stock suspension is pretty damn good going down dirt roads and rally cross events (non professional of course). And let’s take a look at something else you mentioned as in clutch/transmission. If I recall the evo you had previously driven was the white 7-800 horse power one with a very race clutch. Drive a stock clutch evo 5 speed before the compassion there can be made please. And over all yes the evo is slightly heavier but take a look in the handling. What I didn’t hear yu mention was the feel of the vehicles and how they are connected to the road. That is a very important thing. The evo being slightly heavier but it does have a better feel and one is more connected to the road than the subaru. Now all of that being said. It comes down to what you want the vehicle for. The subaru is more of a friendly car while the evo is more of a in your face race car. The subaru is best for daily driving while the evo is well I hope you didn’t plan to get grocerys because all your gonna be able to do is take a couple buddies out and about and do some racing in it.
Center diff info came from a Mitsubishi engineer who worked with the Evo’s AWD system. Also, regarding the surface settings, gravel will actually allow for larger steering angles without intervening. If you want to be wild and free disable traction and stability. I go over how these settings work in my full review of the Evo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THJOpVbuRa4
In this video I saw a Lancer Sport not a Lancer Evo. Evo’s don’t have automatic gear and all Evo’s have Recaro race seats.
Im pretty sure this was an Evo MR edition. Which has different features than the standard Evo X and lacks the rear wing.
the EVO X MR comes only with a dual clutch automatic transmission. the recaro seats were discontinued for the 2015 model year because they did not pass updated safety standards. the MR also comes with a lip spoiler rather than the big wing
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EVO not in production anymore, so dear owners take care of these great cars!
Man, this comparison was extremely thorough.
I think the M3 had won to be honest
shut up
I used to own a evo. Now i own a wrx. Both are great cars but i actually enjoy the subaru more. Plus having a wagon is a plus with the more space.
whaaat?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YvRcS8UD-Q
Welp, that sums up the age old question. Screw you, evo.
So to recap the Evo had:
better brakes
active yaw control as opposed to fancy abs
sharper turn in response
the only real performance category it lost in was power and weight but you failed to mention which one puts power to the wheels more efficiently. Also the stock turbo of the sti has less power potential than the tried and true td05 in the evo. And can we please stop bitching about plastic interiors? I love that they saved the money there so the powertrain could be better.
I’d like to comment on the plastic interior thing, because before I was very involved with automotive journalism I was completely on your side. I bought a ‘14 STI before entering any press car. When you drive a new car every week, you start to get a feel for what the industry offers, and it becomes very apparent when you get in a vehicle that’s below industry average. That’s why I mentioned the Evo is old in my Evo review, because the interior may have been fine for 2008 but it’s 2015 now. When there are cars like the Golf R, and the new STI (a big improvement over the generation I own), for the same price as the Evo, all while weighing significantly less, it’s worth pointing out. Torque vectoring differentials are awesome, probably one of the smartest ways to control yaw. That said, the technology is becoming more common these days. For the price, there’s no reason the Evo’s interior shouldn’t compete with similar cars on the market, and it does not.
And to recap, it has larger brakes, but is heavier. This doesn’t mean better. They both have large brembos for their vehicle weight.
Not attacking the Evo here either, it was a blast to drive and felt well controlled. Just letting you know that my opinions on interiors has changed dramatically since I’ve been more exposed to vehicles within the industry.
Subie life or no life
A red Subaru and a blue Mitsubishi? My e-peen was confused.
Where did you get your info on the evo power split? As from what research iI have done it is a 50/50 split 24/7 straight from mitsubishi itself and everywhere else I have looked. Going to the seats. Drive a diffrent year evo that does have the Recaros they have more bolstering than the sti. Yes you did mention that it had gotten new seats in the 2015 model but the rest of them have better seats period. No talk about how the diffrent terrain modes in the evo work? That is a big game changer. The tarmac let’s it be wild and free. Allows oversteer and has a stiffer diff while gravel kind of opens the diff and tightens the TCS and snow is basically the fun police to allow the safest driving. And the suspension cues. Agreed the subaru has a very street suspension and so does the evo. But the evos stock suspension is pretty damn good going down dirt roads and rally cross events (non professional of course). And let’s take a look at something else you mentioned as in clutch/transmission. If I recall the evo you had previously driven was the white 7-800 horse power one with a very race clutch. Drive a stock clutch evo 5 speed before the compassion there can be made please. And over all yes the evo is slightly heavier but take a look in the handling. What I didn’t hear yu mention was the feel of the vehicles and how they are connected to the road. That is a very important thing. The evo being slightly heavier but it does have a better feel and one is more connected to the road than the subaru. Now all of that being said. It comes down to what you want the vehicle for. The subaru is more of a friendly car while the evo is more of a in your face race car. The subaru is best for daily driving while the evo is well I hope you didn’t plan to get grocerys because all your gonna be able to do is take a couple buddies out and about and do some racing in it.
Center diff info came from a Mitsubishi engineer who worked with the Evo’s AWD system. Also, regarding the surface settings, gravel will actually allow for larger steering angles without intervening. If you want to be wild and free disable traction and stability. I go over how these settings work in my full review of the Evo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THJOpVbuRa4
In this video I saw a Lancer Sport not a Lancer Evo. Evo’s don’t have automatic gear and all Evo’s have Recaro race seats.
Im pretty sure this was an Evo MR edition. Which has different features than the standard Evo X and lacks the rear wing.
the EVO X MR comes only with a dual clutch automatic transmission. the recaro seats were discontinued for the 2015 model year because they did not pass updated safety standards. the MR also comes with a lip spoiler rather than the big wing