So basically a lower spring rate is better for daily street (and offroad) and stiffer springs is only ideal for track day or race cars but what about the dampers and how can different ride height from the back end and front end of the car affect your handling?
Offroad is honestly an entirely different beast. Often offroading rigs have very stiff springs to raise and maintain a high ride height. Solid axles, which any true offroad vehicle uses, causes a much larger travel distance then any independent suspension vehicle could ever see, no matter how soft the springs.
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I lost you at about 30seconds :P
Shoulda paid attention in Physics class bro :P
I’ve read that stiffer suspension requires grippier tires. Is that true? And if it is, why?
I wouldn’t say the correlation is necessary. Performance cars tend to have grippier tires and stiffer suspensions. But that doesn’t mean they require stiffer tires due to the grippy tires.
That said, if you have grippier tires, you can create higher lateral and longitudinal loading (higher g forces) and so your suspension will have more work to do.
For track use, stiffer is better, no energy lost. For off road, you nee compliance and an agreement between rebound and compression so that you do not bottom out as often and you don’t get kicked by the rebound when you least expect it. Depends on what you want really. I myself would love to be able to have high and low speed adjustments on both compression and rebound. That basically means that, if I please, with the turn of a few knobs I can go off road or on track. :)
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AC Schnitzer suspension motto "better fast than hard"
"Two cars driving . They’re about to collide, which is unfortunate, but that is irrelevant." The way he said it…… totally made my day! lol
supposed to be doing homework. aaanndd now i’m going to binge watch this channel for the next 3 hours. damn procrastination :/ Lol
Change major (assuming you are in college) to engineering and this would be studying
that popped collar tho
What he’s not taking into account, is weight transfer on a vehicle due to spring compression during cornering. Too-soft springs cause the outside front tire to take all the load, and removes weight from the other three tires on the vehicle. This can be alleviated somewhat with better anti-sway and anti-roll features, but nothing beats simply stiffening the springs so they don’t collapse under weight transfer.
He did mention body roll and suspension geometry.
Weight transfer is the same regardless of spring compression. A too large rear sway bar will do what you describe. Stiffer springs are always better than substituting for roll resistance with sway bars for handling :)
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So basically a lower spring rate is better for daily street (and offroad) and stiffer springs is only ideal for track day or race cars but what about the dampers and how can different ride height from the back end and front end of the car affect your handling?
Offroad is honestly an entirely different beast. Often offroading rigs have very stiff springs to raise and maintain a high ride height. Solid axles, which any true offroad vehicle uses, causes a much larger travel distance then any independent suspension vehicle could ever see, no matter how soft the springs.
YOU are amazing. Thank you for your videos. Cheers
I lost you at about 30seconds :P
Shoulda paid attention in Physics class bro :P
I’ve read that stiffer suspension requires grippier tires. Is that true? And if it is, why?
I wouldn’t say the correlation is necessary. Performance cars tend to have grippier tires and stiffer suspensions. But that doesn’t mean they require stiffer tires due to the grippy tires.
That said, if you have grippier tires, you can create higher lateral and longitudinal loading (higher g forces) and so your suspension will have more work to do.
For track use, stiffer is better, no energy lost. For off road, you nee compliance and an agreement between rebound and compression so that you do not bottom out as often and you don’t get kicked by the rebound when you least expect it. Depends on what you want really. I myself would love to be able to have high and low speed adjustments on both compression and rebound. That basically means that, if I please, with the turn of a few knobs I can go off road or on track. :)
Look up tein EDFC
AC Schnitzer suspension motto "better fast than hard"
"Two cars driving . They’re about to collide, which is unfortunate, but that is irrelevant." The way he said it…… totally made my day! lol
supposed to be doing homework. aaanndd now i’m going to binge watch this channel for the next 3 hours. damn procrastination :/ Lol
Change major (assuming you are in college) to engineering and this would be studying
that popped collar tho
What he’s not taking into account, is weight transfer on a vehicle due to spring compression during cornering. Too-soft springs cause the outside front tire to take all the load, and removes weight from the other three tires on the vehicle. This can be alleviated somewhat with better anti-sway and anti-roll features, but nothing beats simply stiffening the springs so they don’t collapse under weight transfer.
He did mention body roll and suspension geometry.
Weight transfer is the same regardless of spring compression. A too large rear sway bar will do what you describe. Stiffer springs are always better than substituting for roll resistance with sway bars for handling :)
Comfort always suffers though lol.